Amber Gambler

Amber Gambler

We all know the rules regarding traffic lights, including amber. Don’t be so quick to take the blame if you’ve done nothing wrong.

I was approaching traffic lights on my NC700 – admittedly not the world’s sexiest bike, but it is my commuter bike, and on the positive side no one wants to nick it.

It has hard-wearing but not especially grippy tyres. I approached a set of traffic lights which were on green in very heavy rain, with raindrops bouncing off the Tarmac. The lights started flickering on to amber, and I made the decision not to brake and to cross on amber. Ahead of me I could see a bus waiting to turn right, in a right-turn lane, and sure enough, it turned right, across my path, and the front of the bus scooped me up in a surprisingly un-violent collision. The front of the bus was one hell of a mess, but I was completely unhurt; even my bike did not have much damage to it.

The Met Police turned up, and I was expecting trouble, but the Police were sympathetic, it turns out the bus driver, when asked by the Police, said he knew the route and he knew my light would be on red, so he turned right. The Police told me that they were going to recommend that the bus driver was prosecuted, not me, even though I fessed up that I had gone through on amber, but I explained my reasons, and the Police accepted them.

I later got a letter that no one would be prosecuted, and I was not particularly bothered as we all make driving errors. I was then sent a letter of claim from loss adjusters from the bus company demanding a huge bill for replacement bus rental and repairs to the bus. I forwarded my letters on to my Insurers and told them what the Police had said and insisted that they got the police report.

My insurers did get the police report, and it turns out that passengers on the bus were supportive of me, and the bus driver himself confirmed he had no filter light on before he turned right. One passenger on the bus, who was standing at the front of the bus, said that I was clearly visible to him for some distance before the bus driver started turning right, and he shouted for the bus driver to stop before he knocked me off.

My insurers have told me that they want to make a partial payout to the bus company as I was an ‘amber gambler’ and bang goes my no claims bonus for my NC, but also for my sportsbike. Are my insurers right to be paying out?


No. The police statements are excellent, and neutral. The standing passenger said he saw you riding in a straight line, clearly visible, and the passenger says he can give no explanation at all as to how the bus driver failed to see you.

The bus driver shoots himself through both feet by saying: “I knew I was safe to turn, because I know the lights, and the biker’s lights are always red when the lights ahead of me are turning amber.” He goes on to add that you were speeding so he must have seen you, or he didn’t see you and he is lying about the speeding so he has put a fresh round into his knee, having finished with his feet.

Your amber light is a red herring. Fundamentally, It does not give him the right to ignore you, a patently visible hazard coming towards him – and If this case were to go to Court I have no doubt that the bus company’s case would be dismissed.

I know the loss adjusters who are appointed by this bus company. They are aggressive, stubborn and none too bright. However, they very rarely go to court, because they must appoint a solicitor, rather than carry on with their nonsense in letters. Because claims adjusters and insurers cannot ‘conduct litigation’ they will have to go to a solicitor, and any competent lawyer reading the police report would have to advise the bus company that turning right across the path of a motorcyclist because its driver thought he knew what colour a light he could not see was would fall flat on its arse.

I can give no explanation as to why your Insurers have just folded like this, sometimes I see insurers fold for small claims, because If they pay out £1,000 worth of damage, and then load your insurance for the next three years, they come out quids in. However, this is a case claimed north of £25,000. I just hope your Insurers have the stomach for a fight rather than paying out a couple of thousand pounds, and then spanking you for the next five years with an increased premium.

Andrew Dalton

Fast Bikes July 2020

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Posted by Andrew Dalton. Last modified: December 21, 2020 at 10:38 am

Andrew Dalton is a highly experienced trial lawyer who delights in taking on difficult and demanding motorcycle cases. He has a tough and relentless litigation style and is utterly focused on getting the best possible outcomes for his clients.
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Andrew Dalton
Andrew Dalton
3 months ago

Sadly Iain under just about every contract of insurance, insurers have the right to take over your claim and settle it as they see fit. You have only modest and fairly informal remedies against the insurers. Rob, sadly the same applies. If the insurers settle the case in your name, as they are entitled to do, and you have very limited legal redress, then the fact that there has been a concluded agreement as to blame leaves you in grave difficulty suing by yourself. This is a problem I come across with alarming frequency. Insurers are quick to settle modest claims and then spank the insured with years of increased premium.The only way you can get round this is by insisting your insurers settle “Without Prejudice” to your claim but your NCB will still be gone. The bus company claim will be over and paid out. it cannot be reopened and our lad on his NC has quite a hill to get over if the insurers make even a partial payout.

Rob Forrester
Rob Forrester
3 months ago

If his insurers payout, could he take a private summons against the bus company for his losses (minor damage and premium increases, assuming he’s renewed since), using the statements as evidence. Once he wins, surely his insurers would reclaim their losses, and be able to reinstate his NCB?

3 months ago

I would like to ask how strong is an police report and who really has the last say insurance comp or you PAYING the insurance .

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